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How to encourage phishing: send email to users from a different domain than they are subscribed to

Posted by jpluimers on 2023/06/08

Many organisations train their personell with phishing attempts from domains that are different from the one the organisation uses.

The mantra is: only respond to emails (or clicking links in them) from domains you know.

Microsoft sent (still sends?) account expiration emails for various *.microsoft.com, *.visualstudio.com and other Microsoft domains like this:

[Wayback/Archive] 232840055-2ccfdb9b-2a13-4a34-92f5-f27f337825f8.png (766×653) email from Microsoft account team <account-security-noreply@mail.msa.msidentity.com>

When asked Microsoft web-care on twitter via [Wayback/Archive] Jeroen Wiert Pluimers @wiert@mastodon.social on Twitter: “Hi @MicrosoftHelps , Is this phishing? If not: whey do you send out emails that look like they are phishing? Previous mails to my unique destination email address originated from the microsoft.com domain. Regards, –jeroen”

Screenshot of potential phishing attempt.

Their DM response was summarised “…,the email you receive is definitely a scam. …” but something triggered me do dig further so I did. After that I responded this in both DM and Twitter [Wayback/Archive] Jeroen Wiert Pluimers @wiert@mastodon.social on Twitter: “While web-care thought it was SCAM, it isn’t. I checked. This is the Microsoft way of notifying you that a Microsoft account is about to be deleted because of inactivity reasons. So I sent back the DM in he screenshot (alt-text spread over 2 images). CC @ngrynerds @jilles_com”

Hi Thea,

Thanks for getting back.

I did some more checks and I think it is not a scam but very confusing.

Please try to escalate this within Microsoft to switch from using account-security-noreply@mail.msa.msidentity.com to an 
@microsoft
.com based email sender.

The steps I followed were from a burner environment, where I: 
1. checked https://lookup.icann.org/whois/en?q=msidentity.com&t=a which indicates that it is indeed a Microsoft domain
2. checked the "here" link in the email that points to https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=2086738 and redirects to https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/microsoft-account-activity-policy-7c0a9fa7-0982-b7c6-fd72-df852b63699f
3. checked the email source and SMTP headers to verify the destination address was indeed mine
4. checked the destination address at https://account.live.com/closeaccount.aspx which indeed indicated the account had been inactive for 2 years

Hi Thea,

Thanks for getting back.

I did some more checks and I think it is not a scam but very confusing.

Please try to escalate this within Microsoft to switch from using account-security-noreply@mail.msa.msidentity.com to an
@microsoft
.com based email sender.

The steps I followed were from a burner environment, where I:
1. checked lookup.icann.org/whois/en?q=msidentity.com&t=a which indicates that it is indeed a Microsoft domain
2. checked the “here” link in the email that points to go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=2086738 and redirects to support.microsoft.com/en-gb/topic/microsoft-account-activity-policy-7c0a9fa7-0982-b7c6-fd72-df852b63699f
3. checked the email source and SMTP headers to verify the destination address was indeed mine
4. checked the destination address at account.live.com/closeaccount.aspx which indeed indicated the account had been inactive for 2 years

Conclusion is that:
– the mail is legit
– will get into SPAM because it is hardly used
– triggers all kinds of phishing warnings

Sending from account-security-noreply@mail.msa.msidentity.com is exactly what security training is about: delete the email, don’t respond.

If I had not responded, the underlying account would have been deleted including (in this cast) the underlying visualstudio.com access.

Digging

–jeroen



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