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Anyone tried #Telegram to communicate securely?
Posted by jpluimers on 2021/01/22
Below are a few comments from [WayBack] Anyone tried #Telegram to communicate securely? Some nice features there… Looks way more secure than WeChat and all that. Thoughts? https://telegram…. – Jason Mayes – Google+.
The consensus seems to be
- Signal is the way to go for secure chat. It is open source too.
- When chatting with groups of people, there is technical security, but not social security.
- Telegram is easier to use than some other chat platforms, and has a large user base.
The comments:
Telegram is pretty nice, but its security leaves much to be desired. If it’s security and true privacy you want, Signal is the way to go.
Hi+Ryan Ostendorf signal is indeed a way to go but didn’t have big users number compared to Telegram.
I use telegram, discord, slack & hangouts for variousn groups i talk with. Of those, telegeam is my preferred for ease of use etc. One thing i would like to see is a “index” of groups to maybe easier prioritise what i want to read (a-la how discord wokrs with its different servers) but im so used to the flat style of telegram/hangouts that i dont have a huge issue with its current design
Re security, im not an expert, but it seems ok, with multuple options available. Havent heard of anything being intercepted/hacked, but who really know what our alien overlords – err governments – and other interested parties are up to behind the scenes.
I use telegram more than whatsapp. I found many technical group discussion (at least for Indonesian) because telegram supports a huge amount of members per group.
also, the telegram bot and channel give a unique feature for a developer to build an application on top of it.
I am using Telegram for 5 years now. Far faster and better than WhatsApp in many ways.
It’s security level depends on who you ask. If you take their word at face value it’s great. If you believe the rumors it’s totally bent by U.S. surveillance agencies.
Feature wise it’s decent otherwise.
A few of us are on the hunt for a good, secure, multi platform messaging platform to replace Hangouts when they kill that. We’ve narrowed it down to a few that we’re testing.
Signal was good until they killed their linux and browser clients.
Retroshare is on the to test list along with…
Viber.
Tox.
I have been a telegram user since october 2017.
And I wonder, how do telegram make profit.
Who is paying for the server to be alive ?
+Jason Mayes …..
…. Curses! Foiled again!
I downloaded Telegram yesterday, in fact. Haven’t had a chance to try it out yet as I don’t know anyone using it. I had thought it would be more like BBM, with public groups in a social media-lite feature, but it’s not.
+Jason Mayes Check out Keybase.io they strike a sweet balance between Wire-like security (encrypted group chats), and Telegram-like usability/looks. And I thought it’s FOSS!
Keybasekeybase.io
Telegram has a very tempting feature set for a “messaging” service.
I have recently started using it. Top reasons I like it so far are the ability to add a username, which means I can be available without giving people my phone number.
My URL 👉 t.me/qwallis
Also the ability to have branded public broadcast channels is different. I’ve set one up for London Meet-ups for +Happening London the URL for that is here 👉 t.me/HappeningLondon
Any public post cam be embedded, so I’m surfacing the next meet-up on the +Happening London web site too 👉 happeninglondon.co.uk
Those feature (and others) make Telegram interesting.
+Robert Wallis I agree. With the caveat that this is as long as you aren’t expecting 100% guaranteed secure communications.
Of course the question of whether such a thing even exists is valid. But in Telegram’s case, at least expect your local Five Eyes government surveillance state to be “reading” them.
I’m giving Matrix/Synapse and riot.im a whirl.
Mostly because I can selfhost it, and it’s got some good things going for it, like encrypted convos.
They still got a mile or two on their clients and that’s where I’m holding off on inviting everyone and their dogs until there’s something that can be used by more people without becoming a troubleshooting nightmare/”this isn’t as easy as whatsapp. Can’t we use messenger instead?” kind of deal.
Riot – Riot – open team collaborationabout.riot.im+Christopher Gaul yeah, but where aren’t they?
As far as I understand Telegram has been validated for “secret chats” between two users, where security models are more easily implemented, but for groups of up to 200,00 that’s never going to be “secret” just hidden, and public broadcast channels are … well public.
–jeroen
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The messenger – Delta Chat – Email Based Instant Messenger; based on IMAP push
Posted by jpluimers on 2021/01/18
[WayBack] The messenger – Delta Chat:Â Delta Chat – Email Based Instant Messenger
From the FAQ at [WayBack] Help – Delta Chat:
What are the advantages of Delta Chat compared to other messengers?
- Independent of any company or services. You own your data.
- Your data are not saved on a central server; this way, in contrast to most other messengers, Delta Chat even protects your metadata (who writes to whom?)
- You do not distribute your address book to anyone.
- Fast by the use of Push-IMAP
- Largest userbase – receivers not using Delta Chat can be reached as well
- Compatible – not only to itself
- Elegant and simple user interface
- Distributed system
- No Spam – only messages of known users are shown by default
- Reliable – safe for professional use
- Trustworthy – can even be used for business messages
- fully Open Source and Standards based
What if the receiver does not use Delta Chat?
- The receiver will get a normal email then – if he replies to it, you will see the reply in the Delta Chat app.
Releases:Â [WayBack] DeltaChat multi-platform releases rolling … – Delta Chat
Repositories via [WayBack] Contribute – Delta Chat:
- [WayBack] Delta Chat · GitHub
- [WayBack] GitHub – deltachat/deltachat-desktop: Desktop Application for https://delta.chat
- [WayBack] GitHub – deltachat/deltachat-android: Email-based instant messaging for Android.
- [WayBack] GitHub – deltachat/deltachat-ios: Email-based instant messaging for iOS.
- [WayBack] GitHub – deltachat/deltachat-core: Delta.Chat C-Library with e2e chat-over-email functionality & Python bindings
- [WayBack] GitHub – deltachat/deltachat-node: node.js bindings for deltachat-core.
Via:
- [WayBack] DeltaChat Messenger – twm’s blog
- [WayBack] DeltaChat is a messenger that uses email as the transport medium, so potentially almost everybody already has an account for it. Today, a they announced… – Thomas Mueller (dummzeuch) – Google+
–jeroen
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On my research list: ZNC – advanced IRC bouncer
Posted by jpluimers on 2018/09/28
ZNC, an advanced IRC bouncer that is left connected so an IRC client can disconnect/reconnect without losing the chat session. Feel free to update pages which you think are improvable and don’t hesitate to ask for help.
You can find us in #znc on freenode.
Background:
–jeroen
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IRC Private Messages – /msg, /invite, /query, Internet Relay Chat
Posted by jpluimers on 2018/08/27
I’m from the BITNET RELAY era, so every now and then I need to get used to how things are done on IRC:
[WayBack] IRC Private Messages – /msg, /invite, /query, Internet Relay Chat
Summarised in my own words:
/msg nicksingle private message/query nick private channel
–jeroen
Some of my BITNET history: xyzzy, Relay Conferencing before IRC even existed « The Wiert Corner – irregular stream of stuff
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