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CodeRage 4: session “Using Unicode and Other Encodings in your Programs” video, chat and Q&A transcripts

Posted by jpluimers on 2009/09/11

Not only can you watch the video and download the CodeRage 4 session on materials on Using Unicode and Other Encodings in your Programs, but below you can also find the chat transcripts below.

VIP Room Transcript with Q&A

(9/11/2009 9:09:19 AM) The topic is: Session Room 2 – “Using Unicode and Other Encodings in your Programs” by Jeroen Pluimers


Public Room Transcript

(5:52:14 PM) Christine_Ellis has set the topic to: Session Room 2 – “Using Unicode and Other Encodings in your Programs” by Jeroen Pluimers
(9/11/2009 9:12:47 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: I got a bunch of 406 error messages in the jibber chat client, so I was afraid it lost the connection :-)
(9/11/2009 9:15:45 AM) Jim_Ferguson: Jeroen, Have you been getting a bunch of internal errors when you get fancy with generics?
(9/11/2009 9:15:53 AM) Borland: BTW, DavidI, excellent internet radio choice of KPIG. Very good Blues.
(9/11/2009 9:36:43 AM) Mandy_Walker: http://etncaweb04.embarcadero.com/resources/technical_papers/Delphi-and-Unicode_Marco-Cantu.pdf
(9/11/2009 9:39:14 AM) Jim_Ferguson: Strings are getting fatter on the back end.
(9/11/2009 9:40:39 AM) Mandy_Walker: Sorry, for incorrect link from slide. Better http://etnaweb04.embarcadero.com/resources/technical_papers/
(9/11/2009 9:49:20 AM) Jim_Ferguson: TBYtes and pChar arent equivalt. TBytes is a dynamic array. Shouln’t be pByte instead of TBytes?
(9/11/2009 9:53:05 AM) Jim_Ferguson: Sounds like Intel needs to build Unicode into the processor. There is a lot of out board thinking when it comes to characters now.
(9/11/2009 9:57:19 AM) Mandy_Walker: http://it-republik.de/konferenzen/delphi_live/material/DelpiLive09_Cantu_Unicode.pdf
(9/11/2009 9:58:26 AM) Borland: Thanks Joroen, this was packed with great information sources.
(9/11/2009 9:59:09 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/coderage/
(9/11/2009 9:59:17 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: https://wiert.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/coderage-4-session-materials-available-for-download/
(9/11/2009 9:59:24 AM) Mandy_Walker: Thx, Jeroen
(9/11/2009 10:00:47 AM) Erwin_Mouthaan: Bedankt Jeroen. Leuke presentatie!
(9/11/2009 10:01:04 AM) jthurman: Jeroen is a marching band guy?
(9/11/2009 10:01:05 AM) M_L: Thanks!
(9/11/2009 10:01:21 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: http://www.wmc.nl
(9/11/2009 10:01:22 AM) Giel: Bedankt Jeroen!
(9/11/2009 10:01:32 AM) Robert_D_Smith: I played snare and bass drum, Jeroen
(9/11/2009 10:01:40 AM) jthurman: Jeroen: I teach high school marching band in the USA. We should talk sometime.
(9/11/2009 10:02:05 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: write me an email: jeroen@pluimers.com
(9/11/2009 10:02:09 AM) jthurman: Will do
(9/11/2009 10:02:45 AM) Robert_Evans: Thanks Jeroen. Great stuff!
(9/11/2009 10:03:11 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: you are welcome; let me know when you have questions or run into things that I might be able to help with
(9/11/2009 10:04:48 AM) Jeroen_Pluimers: talking about migration projects: we have done quite a few for clients; so if you need help with that as well, drop me an email
(9/11/2009 10:05:46 AM) Christine_Ellis has set the topic to: Session Room 2 – “New Features in the RAD Studio IDE” by Mark Duncan & Darren Kosinski

–jeroen

Posted in .NET, C#, CommandLine, Delphi, Development, Encoding, ISO-8859, ISO8859, Prism, Software Development, Unicode, UTF-8, UTF8, XML, XML/XSD, XSD | 1 Comment »

CodeRage 4: session “Practical XML in Delphi” chat and Q&A transcripts

Posted by jpluimers on 2009/09/09

Not only can you download CodeRage 4 session on materials on Practical XML in Delphi, but below you can also find the chat transcripts below.

Note the times are a bit odd: when the chat window refreshes, it sometimes uses the PST time zone, but new posts are using the local time zone.
Hence the sudden jump from 9 AM to  almost 6 PM.

VIP Room Transcript with Q&A

[5:46:28 PM] <davidi>

Q: thomasgrubb asked: “Is there an implementation for XMLDocument (for Delphi Win32) that is file-mapped, e.g., the whole doc is not loaded into memory?”
A: Not that Jeroen is aware of.
[5:46:54 PM] <davidi>

Q: thomasgrubb asked: “Is there an implementation for XMLDocument (for Delphi Win32) that is file-mapped, e.g., the whole doc is not loaded into memory?”
A: Not that Jeroen is aware of. Send Jeroen an email and he will blog about other solutions.
[5:47:20 PM] <davidi>

Q: thomasgrubb asked: “For Embarcadero Technologies: Are you going to develop a better option for validating XML on the Win32 side in the future?”
A: David I – replied – I will forward this to R&D and Product management
[5:53:14 PM] <davidi>

Q: devtux asked: “are you using any XML test generator? Please, suggest one if yes”
A: XMLSpy
[5:53:47 PM] <davidi>

Q: richz asked: “I’ve been trying for weeks to find out how to have the Win32 Delphi IDE generate code to serialize/de-serialize my class properties to an XML file. Is there anything in the IDE to do that?”
A: From Delphi 2010 on – you can use DBX support for JSON!

Public Room Transcript

[7:58:58 AM] * Christine_Ellis has set the topic to: Session Room 2 – Next Session”Practical XML in Delphi” at 8AM PDT
[8:02:15 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> Starting livemeeting
[8:03:59 AM] * Jeroen_Pluimers is wondering why LiveMeeting is always asking for email/company. Does it suffer from Korsakov’s disease?
[8:07:34 AM] <Christine_Ellis> It asks because we tell it to.
[8:08:22 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> but it never remembers, even if you start it with the same session parametes.
[8:08:41 AM] <Christine_Ellis> live meeting doesn’t use cookies and doesn’t know who you are
[8:08:47 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> ok.
[8:09:29 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> can we do a quick audio test?
[8:12:48 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> I mean: fro my current Microphone; it works with sound recorder, but wonder if Live Meeting will get it today as well.
[8:15:55 AM] * Christine_Ellis has set the topic to: Session Room 2 – “Practical XML in Delphi“
[8:35:37 AM] <Peter_Wolf> a lot of memory = usually 10 timer more than the size of XML file bytes
[8:36:27 AM] <Peter_Wolf> … the size of XML file in bytes
[8:39:14 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> @Peter: that totally depends on what you use to read that XML. The MSXML and Internet Explorer are notorous memory hogs. But .NET is much more efficient on memory usage.
[8:40:15 AM] <Peter_Wolf> i ment MSXML which is default for most users
[8:41:17 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> @Peter: yup, that’s why I mentioned that as the first one. Most of the Win32 users will use MSXML, because that is the default for Win32.
[8:43:45 AM] * Jeroen_Pluimers warns: be carefull where you press ESC in IE: it can unload your chat window.
[8:47:29 AM] <Scott_Hollows> my brain hurts
[8:48:57 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> Scott: let me know later on if I can make it more clear to you.
[8:50:27 AM] <Ryan_Ford> Will this presentation be available for download?
[8:51:05 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> @Ryan: yes it will.
[8:52:59 AM] <Ryan_Ford> Its so nice to run 8GB for development
[8:52:59 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> @Ryan: the session materials are available for download here: https://wiert.wordpress.com/2009/09/09/coderage-4-session-materials-available-for-download/ The replays will be available for download after the conference.
[8:58:56 AM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> My VIP room died.
[9:00:08 AM] <AbsaLootly> … you have to hate it when that happens…
[9:01:46 AM] <Ryan_Ford> What alternatives for MSXML are there for WIN32
[9:02:22 AM] <Peter_Wolf> it also takes forever to open really big XML files wh MSXML
[5:45:31 PM] <AbsaLootly> I saw one developer try to put an entire database in one xml file… it took several hours to load it.
[5:51:59 PM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> MSXML
[5:52:03 PM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> ADOM XML
[5:52:05 PM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> Xerces
[5:52:56 PM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> That straight from the Delphi 2010 TXMLDocument.DOMVendor property
[5:53:25 PM] <Jeroen_Pluimers> XMLSpy can generate test ML
[5:54:16 PM] <Rich__> Thx
[5:55:17 PM] <Jim_Ferguson> Can you briefly describe JSON?
[5:56:02 PM] <Jim_Ferguson> what tool do you use transcribe your chat?
[5:56:23 PM] <Jon> it’s called a keyboard :)

–jeroen

Posted in .NET, CodeRage, CommandLine, Conferences, Database Development, Debugging, Delphi, Development, Encoding, Event, ISO-8859, ISO8859, Prism, Software Development, Source Code Management, TFS (Team Foundation System), UTF-8, UTF8, Visual Studio and tools, XML, XML/XSD, XSD | Leave a Comment »

CodeRage 4: session materials are available for download« The Wiert Corner – Jeroen Pluimers’ irregular stream of Wiert stuff

Posted by jpluimers on 2009/09/09

My CodeRage 4 session materials are available for download:

CodeRage 4 is a free, virtual conference on Embarcadero technologies with a lot of Delphi sessions.
It is held from September 8 till 11, 2009, i.e. while I write this :-)
If you want to watch sessions live, be sure to register through LiveMeeting (the technology they use for making this all happen).

Let me know if you download, and what you are using the sample code for.

–jeroen

Posted in .NET, CodeRage, CommandLine, Conferences, Database Development, Debugging, Delphi, Development, Encoding, Event, Firebird, InterBase, ISO-8859, ISO8859, Prism, Software Development, Source Code Management, SQL Server, TFS (Team Foundation System), Unicode, UTF-8, UTF8, Visual Studio and tools, XML, XML/XSD, XSD | 4 Comments »

StUF – receiving data from a provider where UTF-8 is in fact ISO-8859

Posted by jpluimers on 2009/05/08

Recently when receiving information from a StUF webservice created by a large Dutch provider of government IT systems, we had an issue with characters having their high bit set.

Although the web-service pretended to send their information as UTF-8, in fact they were encoding using a form of ISO_8859.

The most likely character set they used is ISO-8859-1 (since that is the default encoding for the HTTP protocol), but it might also be ISO-8859-15 which is an adaption of ISO-8859-1 trading some typographic characters for the euro-sign and some characters from French and some characters used for transliteration of  Russian, Finnish and Estonian.
(note that the printable characters of both ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15 can be displayed by the Windows-1252 code page)

Since it is not possible to reliably “guess” the right encoding (there are way to many possibilities, even IsTextUnicode that is used by Notepad fails, see below), the only way is to use a fixed reencoding that depends on the StUF data provider. Read the rest of this entry »

Posted in Development, Encoding, ISO-8859, ISO8859, Mojibake, Software Development, The Old New Thing, Unicode, UTF-8, UTF8, Windows Development, XML, XML/XSD | 5 Comments »

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